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they had a lot of backlash against the nra. this time they're much more careful about how they're handling their public relations campaign. these tough guys in the nra who are always talking about their principles, where are they now defending them when they're unpopular. if they really believe in these principles, it's the most important time to defend them publicly is when they're under attack and despite their unpopularity you still believe in them. >> cenk: that's a great point, michael. there is one guy fighting aggressively mayor bloomberg in new york. >> it's time for the president i think to stand up and lead and tell this country what we should do. not go to congress and say what do you guys want to do? this should be his number one agenda. he's the president of the united states. and if he does nothing during his second term, something like 48,000 americans will be killed with illegal guns. that is roughly the number of americans killed in the whole vietnam war. >> cenk: well, mayor bloomberg seems to be indisputablel
they had a lot of backlash against the nra. this time they're much more careful about how they're handling their public relations campaign. these tough guys in the nra who are always talking about their principles, where are they now defending them when they're unpopular. if they really believe in these principles, it's the most important time to defend them publicly is when they're under attack and despite their unpopularity you still believe in them. >> cenk: that's a great point,...
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of the nra after these tragedies? >> in a word, nothing. the nra doesn't comment. why should they? you can't win this argument with the specter of 20 dead children hanging in the air. as painful as it sounds right now, memories fade. six months from now people will likely feel very differently about what went down in newtown. the nra probably won't comment then either but it won't need to because roughly half the population still thinks the answers to tragedies is more guns, protection. >> so, carol, what about the power of the nra as a lobby? everyone knows it is significant. you saw some of the campaign pictures. what kind of power are we talking about when it comes to money and numbers? >> it is not so much about the money. the nra has millions of members, 4 million members or more. that is like having 4 million votes in your pocket. so legislators, lawmakers are elected and know that. they are talking about real votes they may lose if they pass gun control legislation. that is the power of the nra. >> carol costello reporting for us live in atlanta. thank you for that insightfu
of the nra after these tragedies? >> in a word, nothing. the nra doesn't comment. why should they? you can't win this argument with the specter of 20 dead children hanging in the air. as painful as it sounds right now, memories fade. six months from now people will likely feel very differently about what went down in newtown. the nra probably won't comment then either but it won't need to because roughly half the population still thinks the answers to tragedies is more guns, protection....
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and certain things that the nra with. and all sides can concur on. safety locks on good and national registry. and more quickly, we have the technology to know if someone goes to buy a gun. and the issue of mental health, what can we do to address mental hettle and takeaway the stigma on those with mental health issues. they need to come forward. >> and thank you very much. always great to see both of you on this very, very sad day, as we take stock of who is going o. thank you very much. so we as adults, we are grappling with the tragedy. it is it hard to imagine how you explain the events of friday's shooting to your children. we'll talk to the experts about that very fact coming up. [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus presents the cold truth. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announcer ] sorry. alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to reli
and certain things that the nra with. and all sides can concur on. safety locks on good and national registry. and more quickly, we have the technology to know if someone goes to buy a gun. and the issue of mental health, what can we do to address mental hettle and takeaway the stigma on those with mental health issues. they need to come forward. >> and thank you very much. always great to see both of you on this very, very sad day, as we take stock of who is going o. thank you very much....
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the nra has blood on its hands! the nra has blood on its hands! shame on the nra! ban assault weapons now! ban assault weapons now! nra, ban assault weapons now! stop killing our children! stop the reckless behavior of the nra! we need gun control now! >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonize lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action and all but guarantee that the next atrocity is only a news cycle away with. away. the media calls semiautomatic firearms machine guns. they claim these civilian semiautomatic firearms are used by the military. they tell us that the .223 round is one of the most powerful rifle calibers when all of these claims are factually untrue. they don't know what they're talking about. worse, they perpetuate the dangerous notion that one more gun ban or one more law imposed or peaceable, lawful people will protect us where 20,000 other laws have failed. as brave and heroic and as self-sacrificing as those tea
the nra has blood on its hands! the nra has blood on its hands! shame on the nra! ban assault weapons now! ban assault weapons now! nra, ban assault weapons now! stop killing our children! stop the reckless behavior of the nra! we need gun control now! >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonize lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action and all but...
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we need each other, whether you support gun control, or the nra who should bring good ideas to citizens. we can protect the constitution, but we also have to protect our people. >> in annapolis, gov. martin o'malley says he supports looking into the gun issue, especially when it comes to safety. >> i do not have a bill to present to you. it is still very much a work in progress. it is work that i would guess that every state in the union as undertaking. >> we call several gun stores that declined on-camera interviews, but did tell 11 news that guns are moving off the shelves at record rates. we were referred to a news release that read in part upon what we call it -- we find it callous and disrespectful that certain politicians and gun control advocates are so focused on their political agenda that they could not find it in their hearts to refrain from publicly exploiting this heartbreaking tragedy until after the victims had been returned to their families and loved ones." and the democratic senator from the murray townie announced what he is calling an anti--- montgomery county announ
we need each other, whether you support gun control, or the nra who should bring good ideas to citizens. we can protect the constitution, but we also have to protect our people. >> in annapolis, gov. martin o'malley says he supports looking into the gun issue, especially when it comes to safety. >> i do not have a bill to present to you. it is still very much a work in progress. it is work that i would guess that every state in the union as undertaking. >> we call several gun...
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but the leading gun rights group, the nra has been largely silent until today. they came out swinging today against the media in a press conference which was occasionally interrupted by protesters. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonized lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking. that only delays meaningful action and all but guarantee but the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be personally involved and invested in a plan of absolute protection. the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> laura: with us now to respond josh horowitz, he is the executive director of the coalition to stop gun violence. josh, good to see you, what's your reaction to what wayne lapierre said today. >> first i think it's great we are having this discussion. it's a discussion that's long overdo and really too bad it takes this type of tragedy to get this type of attention to the issu
but the leading gun rights group, the nra has been largely silent until today. they came out swinging today against the media in a press conference which was occasionally interrupted by protesters. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonized lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking. that only delays meaningful action and all but guarantee but the next atrocity is only a news cycle...
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but the leading gun rights group, the nra has been largely silent until today. they came out swinging today against the media in a press conference which was occasionally interrupted by protesters. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonized lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking. that only delays meaningful action and all but guarantee but the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be personally involved and invested in a plan of absolute protection. the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> laura: with us now to respond josh horowitz, he is the executive director of the coalition to stop gun violence. josh, good to see you, what's your reaction to what wayne lapierre said today. >> first i think it's great we are having this discussion. it's a discussion that's long overdo and really too bad it takes this type of tragedy to get this type of attention to the issu
but the leading gun rights group, the nra has been largely silent until today. they came out swinging today against the media in a press conference which was occasionally interrupted by protesters. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonized lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking. that only delays meaningful action and all but guarantee but the next atrocity is only a news cycle...
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. >> shame on nra. >> reporter: as protesters gathered outside offices in washington, the nra again declined to comment on the debate, but there were signs that the sandy hook massacre has impacted capitol hill. >> as your senator i will protect our second amendment rights. >> reporter: west virginia senator, joe manchin, a life-long nra member said he is rethinking his own positions. >> i don't know anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know anybody that needs those types of multiple clips as far as ammunition. >> reporter: and former republican congressman, joe scarborough, now an msnbc host also reversed himself on gun control. >> politicians can no longer be allowed to defend the status quo. they must instead be forced to defend our children. >> reporter: but at least one texas republican continues to defend the right of americans to own assault weapons. >> it ensures against the tyranny of the government. >> reporter: amid the talk of gun control, gun sales have picked up. in portland, just a week after a gunman killed two in an area mall. >> yesterday was the biggest
. >> shame on nra. >> reporter: as protesters gathered outside offices in washington, the nra again declined to comment on the debate, but there were signs that the sandy hook massacre has impacted capitol hill. >> as your senator i will protect our second amendment rights. >> reporter: west virginia senator, joe manchin, a life-long nra member said he is rethinking his own positions. >> i don't know anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know...
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the nra is a paper tiger. it is time to get this done, the time is now, the day's events just showed what must happen in this country. >> congresswoman, we have talked over the last several months about how there have been shifts on so many issues, many of them social issues, for example, gay marriage. that it does seem as if legislation is sort of catching up with public opinion, is that what is happening here? and is there a way to push it forward from your perspective? >> well, i have to tell you, chris, after one of our colleagues was shot at a town hall, gabrielle giffords, we still could not get the republican leadership to put on the floor measures, bills to end the gun violence. when we go back, i'm sure there will be a flurry of activity and a flurry of speeches and statements and bills and hearings, and actions. and hopefully, the momentum will build that you reach a tipping point where -- whet
the nra is a paper tiger. it is time to get this done, the time is now, the day's events just showed what must happen in this country. >> congresswoman, we have talked over the last several months about how there have been shifts on so many issues, many of them social issues, for example, gay marriage. that it does seem as if legislation is sort of catching up with public opinion, is that what is happening here? and is there a way to push it forward from your perspective? >> well, i...
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and yet we have a lobby, the leadership of the nra who function as enablers of mass murderers, they are enablers of mass murder because they terrified the class of people and even though. >> absolute sli not. >> polling shows most nra members will oppose reasonable gun controls but they lie and say they will take away your guns and take your guns away. >> no one outside of a police officer or military needs one of these in their house. nobody. >> we need to say something. >> listen, the encouraging thing and what you should take inspiration because we are all frustrated and outraged. this conversation does not represent what the american public. wants. it does not represent the conversation that american public wants to have. we are in favor of background checks. 74% of nra members are and most gun sales do not require a background check. things that we can do. >> it's not as they try to tell me an anti-american thing to say i respect the second amendment and i respect the right for a family to defend themselves. i don't respect families to load their homes with these so a disturbed kid
and yet we have a lobby, the leadership of the nra who function as enablers of mass murderers, they are enablers of mass murder because they terrified the class of people and even though. >> absolute sli not. >> polling shows most nra members will oppose reasonable gun controls but they lie and say they will take away your guns and take your guns away. >> no one outside of a police officer or military needs one of these in their house. nobody. >> we need to say...
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. >> shame on nra. >> reporter: as protesters gathered outside of washington, the nra declined to comment on the debate. but there were signs that they have. joe manchin, a life long nra member said he's rethinking his position. >> i don't know anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know anybody that needs those types of multiple clips as far as ammunition. >> reporter: and joe scarborough, now an nbc host also reversed himself on gun control. >> politicians can no longer be allowed to defend the statistic customer quo, they must instead be forced to defend our children. >> reporter: at least one texas republican defends the rights of owners. amid the talk of gun control, gun sales have picked up. in portland, just a week after a gunman killed two in an area mall. >> yesterday was the biggest day we've ever done in 20 years. today will probably eclipse that. >> reporter: gun control off of washington in a decade, suddenly front and center. tom costello, nbc "nightly news," washington. >>> as the bereaved residents try to get through the tragedy, a group of ten golden ret
. >> shame on nra. >> reporter: as protesters gathered outside of washington, the nra declined to comment on the debate. but there were signs that they have. joe manchin, a life long nra member said he's rethinking his position. >> i don't know anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know anybody that needs those types of multiple clips as far as ammunition. >> reporter: and joe scarborough, now an nbc host also reversed himself on gun control. >>...
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this comes from the national rifle association, "until the facts are thoroughly known, the nra has no comment." this comes from the national shooting sports foundation. actually, based here. they say this, can you scroll down again so i today that? "our hearts go out to the families of this horrible tragedy in our community. out of respect for the families, the community and the ongoing police investigation, it would be inappropriate to comment." so from both of them, pretty much getting a big resounding no comment at this point. want to get to california republican congresswoman mary bono mack. nice to see you again. we've had an opportunity to talk about a lot of things the last year on my morning program. you're a parent first and foremost. what's your response to what has unfolded in newtown, connecticut? >> hi, soledad. thunderstorm watch for having me here. my response -- thank you for having me here. my response is the same as every american is having now, that is a bone-chilling sadness. i think that we all grieve right now. i think there's a piece of every single parent right
this comes from the national rifle association, "until the facts are thoroughly known, the nra has no comment." this comes from the national shooting sports foundation. actually, based here. they say this, can you scroll down again so i today that? "our hearts go out to the families of this horrible tragedy in our community. out of respect for the families, the community and the ongoing police investigation, it would be inappropriate to comment." so from both of them, pretty...
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nra positions. in 2009, the nra pushed through laws relaxing the ability to carry guns on amtrak. i will admit i don't understand the need for that at all and new laws relaxing gun bans in national parks. what can we expect the nra to go along with? >> in louisiana they pushed a law to allow people to carry guns in churches. the bishop put the stop to that. look, they're very powerful group. no question about it. and they put a lot of stuff through and a lot of people not just the congress but state legislators are mortified for these guys and for good reason. they send out a lot of mail and people follow them. i think the vice president was instrumental in passing the assault weapon ban before. he knows this. he is a good man to head up this task force but he will be in for a heck of a fight them play pretty tough. it is not an easy thing to get done here. >> what should the nra say? he is coming out and talking tomorrow. is it safe to assume he will say look, we do support some kind of change. som
nra positions. in 2009, the nra pushed through laws relaxing the ability to carry guns on amtrak. i will admit i don't understand the need for that at all and new laws relaxing gun bans in national parks. what can we expect the nra to go along with? >> in louisiana they pushed a law to allow people to carry guns in churches. the bishop put the stop to that. look, they're very powerful group. no question about it. and they put a lot of stuff through and a lot of people not just the...
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he fought the nra. he was a prosecuting district attorney in philadelphia but did not see eye to eye on w the nra. and in this a very pro-hunting state able to be elected for two terms. it can be done. it requires the ongoing focus of many of us who won't allow january to come and people's memories to fade. >> right. and john, just quickly, the issue that the two republicans we've just played specifically the congressman saying that we need to address the issue of mental health in this country. and perhaps ignoring signs that are there. my question is, why is there a perception that you cannot do both at the same time? why can't there be legislative action immediately if there's the desire of the people and overwhelming numbers show 57% if not higher asking americans if they want stricter gun controls, that i say yes. why does it have to be one or the other, mental health or some type of reasonable or sensible common sense ban on certain weapons? >> m-o-n-e-y. the republican party gets 80% or 90% of the
he fought the nra. he was a prosecuting district attorney in philadelphia but did not see eye to eye on w the nra. and in this a very pro-hunting state able to be elected for two terms. it can be done. it requires the ongoing focus of many of us who won't allow january to come and people's memories to fade. >> right. and john, just quickly, the issue that the two republicans we've just played specifically the congressman saying that we need to address the issue of mental health in this...
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in washington, the nra again declined to comment on the debate, but there were signs the sandy hook massacre has eroded some of the nr a's influence on capitol hill. >> as your support, i'll protect our second amendment rights. >> reporter: west virginia senator joe manchin, a lifelong nra member said he's rethinking his own positions. >> i don't know of anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know anybody that needs those types of multiple clips as far as ammunition. >> reporter: and former republican congressman joe scarborough, now an msnbc host, also reversed himself on gun control. >> politicians can no longer be allowed to defend the status quo. they must instead be forced to defend our children. >> reporter: but at least one texas republican continues to defend the right of americans to own assault weapons. >> it ensures against the tyranny of the government. >> reporter: amid the talk of gun control, gun sales have picked up. in portland, just a week after a gunman killed two in an area mall. >> yesterday was the biggest day we've ever done in 20 years. toda
in washington, the nra again declined to comment on the debate, but there were signs the sandy hook massacre has eroded some of the nr a's influence on capitol hill. >> as your support, i'll protect our second amendment rights. >> reporter: west virginia senator joe manchin, a lifelong nra member said he's rethinking his own positions. >> i don't know of anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know anybody that needs those types of multiple clips as far as...
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does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago they didn't have the power they once did in a presidential election. >> i'll give you a good example. i'm not the kind of person to sit back and say, you know, the world is getting worse for my kids, and i'm gone, i don't care about their lives. i do care about their lives. i'm going to do everything while i'm alive to make the world a better place for my kids but also for society. and take a look. one of the things i decided to do in the last election was to support some candidates that were running against those that had great records with the nra, where the nra was putting their money into one side. i decided to put my money into the other side. >> joe baca in california, one of the democrats that you supported? >> we won four out of seven -- four out of seven where the nra supported every one of those four and we won with a small amount of money. there is this myth that the nra is so powerful. you go back to what happened back when the democrats lost after
does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago they didn't have the power they once did in a presidential election. >> i'll give you a good example. i'm not the kind of person to sit back and say, you know, the world is getting worse for my kids, and i'm gone, i don't care about their lives. i do care about their lives. i'm going to do everything while i'm alive to make the world a better place for my kids but also for society. and take a look. one of the things i...
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the nra is a paper tiger. it is time to get this done, the time is now, the day's events just showed what must happen in this country. >> congresswoman, we have talked over the last several months about how there have been shifts on so many issues, many of them social issues, for example, gay marriage. that it does seem as if legislation is sort of catching up with public opinion, is that what is happening here? and is there a way to push it forward from your perspective? >> well, i have to tell you, chris, after one of our colleagues was shot at a
the nra is a paper tiger. it is time to get this done, the time is now, the day's events just showed what must happen in this country. >> congresswoman, we have talked over the last several months about how there have been shifts on so many issues, many of them social issues, for example, gay marriage. that it does seem as if legislation is sort of catching up with public opinion, is that what is happening here? and is there a way to push it forward from your perspective? >> well, i...
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the nra, a lot of conservatives, in congress, who say that that's not the answer. we need to do a better job of enforcing the laws that are already on the books. president obama certainly making a pretty strong statement in his remarks yesterday and again in hi radio address today. >> switching gears now. a few moments ago we reported hillary clinton faint ad pew days ago. she is home now. expected to be okay. how will her illness affect the timing of the announcement of the next secretary of state? >> reporter: i don't know that it will have an impact on that announcement. what i can tell you, craig, is that just to put night context, secretary of state clinton recently to cancel an overseas trip because she got a stomach bug. because of that bug, according to officials at the state department, she became dehydrated several day ace go and did faint and did suffer a concussion. but she is at home and is resting and she is being monitored by doctors and she is expected to return to work sometime soon. >> nbc's kristen welker from the white house for us on this satur
the nra, a lot of conservatives, in congress, who say that that's not the answer. we need to do a better job of enforcing the laws that are already on the books. president obama certainly making a pretty strong statement in his remarks yesterday and again in hi radio address today. >> switching gears now. a few moments ago we reported hillary clinton faint ad pew days ago. she is home now. expected to be okay. how will her illness affect the timing of the announcement of the next...
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this is tied into ideology, not just hunting licenses. >> the nra gets, i think -- the nra spends the most money on the one side of the issue, so they get credit/blame, depending where you come down on all this. but somehow the debate -- chuck's point about the frustration with the lack of any middle ground possible -- >> when charlton heston said you're going to have to take this gun out of my cold, dead hand. that's not a compromising position. >> and that's the problem, chris. it's become this slippery slope argument, which is any -- >> i hate that phrase. >> i hate the slippery slope. >> okay. let's say assault weapons or these high caliber -- these high pack rounds, if they do that, what will they do next? >> find a way. let's be honest about it. can we be honest about it? >> you can't have a discussion -- >> you know what the problem is? there is a sliver of american people who are anti-gun. they would like to go around the country and collect every gun. let's be honest, they are there, they live in big cities, in apartments, they think the police will be there to protect them.
this is tied into ideology, not just hunting licenses. >> the nra gets, i think -- the nra spends the most money on the one side of the issue, so they get credit/blame, depending where you come down on all this. but somehow the debate -- chuck's point about the frustration with the lack of any middle ground possible -- >> when charlton heston said you're going to have to take this gun out of my cold, dead hand. that's not a compromising position. >> and that's the problem,...
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lawmakers from both sides of the party, even staunch members, staunchly backed by the nra are united in their grief and say they want change to happen, but will it? >> erin, sometimes it takes tragedy to make us confront reality. you are starting to see politicians on both sides of the aisle say maybe now is not the time to rely on ideology or partisan politics put to start taking a long look at the laws that exist around guns. not infringing on the second amendment, but taking a look at what reasonable restrictions can be put in place. in the last 24 hours, two leading southern democratic leaders, joel manchin and mark warner, said this event has changed them and they're open to new solutions. let's take a look at what m manchin told christine amanpour. >> who would think that children in america or anyone would be slaughtered? it changed me. i don't know of anyone who goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know people who need 10, 20, 30-round clips. >> i believe every american has a second amendment right and the ability to hunt is part of our culture. i had an nra rating of
lawmakers from both sides of the party, even staunch members, staunchly backed by the nra are united in their grief and say they want change to happen, but will it? >> erin, sometimes it takes tragedy to make us confront reality. you are starting to see politicians on both sides of the aisle say maybe now is not the time to rely on ideology or partisan politics put to start taking a long look at the laws that exist around guns. not infringing on the second amendment, but taking a look at...
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the nra has blood on its ads. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra ban assault weapons now. ban on assault weapons now. nra, end assault weapons now. stop killing our children. stop the reckless behavior of the nra. we need gun control now. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonizes the gun owners, amplifies their cries for more laws, and fills the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action in all that guarantees the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the media calls semi automatic firearms machine guns. they claims the civilian automatic firearms are used by the military. they tell us that the 223 round is one of the most popular calibers when all of these claims are factually untrue. they don't know what they are talking about. worse, they perpetuate the dangerous notion that one more gun ban or one more law imposed on peaceful lawful people will protect us where 20,000 other laws have failed. as brave and heroic and as self-sacrificing as those teachers
the nra has blood on its ads. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra ban assault weapons now. ban on assault weapons now. nra, end assault weapons now. stop killing our children. stop the reckless behavior of the nra. we need gun control now. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonizes the gun owners, amplifies their cries for more laws, and fills the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action in all that...
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it has been systematically starved by congress because the nra doesn't like the batf. it doesn't even have a full time confirmed leader. it is a firearms agency. the power of the nra is such in congress that they have essentially written this agency out of the book. >> when i talk about a new agency or this new initiative, is it just about guns or a far greater issue that everybody wants to put a piece in. >> sure. there are lots of moving parts here. obviously mental health is an enormous part. the federal government doesn't have a lot to do with mental health. mostly state issues. they can give money. they can give money to the states for sorts of things and they don't control issues of who gets institutionalized and who gets deinstitutionalized and what narcotics or what kind of medicine can be used on people, so color me very skeptical. as dana point out, there is not a lot of political will here among vulnerable democrats and they're the ones who will make the difference and the republican party is already completely aligned. >> let me talk to you about the suprem
it has been systematically starved by congress because the nra doesn't like the batf. it doesn't even have a full time confirmed leader. it is a firearms agency. the power of the nra is such in congress that they have essentially written this agency out of the book. >> when i talk about a new agency or this new initiative, is it just about guns or a far greater issue that everybody wants to put a piece in. >> sure. there are lots of moving parts here. obviously mental health is an...
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is that an a rating from the nra or an f rating in the nra? >> the phones should be ringing off the hook. emails should be going crazy. members of congress and plenty of republicans have people in their districts who will be harmed by this deal. they need to hear from them, and so i think it's so important that groups continue to mobilize people, not just talk in the media, but mobilize their people to express their outrage. >> as far as this million dollar threshold, we've talked a lot in the months prior about this being sort of the sticking point, the threshold, but nancy pelosi was on record. she was on charlie rose, speaker boehner's office points this out, saying, look, let's just raise taxes on millionaires. is it difficult for house democrats to walk that back now that they've been on the record saying that? >> not particularly. i mean, we understand the gop is very good at their communication strategy. they'll say this was nancy pelosi's plan. this was chuck schumer's plan. they say they won't even support a tax cut for those making a
is that an a rating from the nra or an f rating in the nra? >> the phones should be ringing off the hook. emails should be going crazy. members of congress and plenty of republicans have people in their districts who will be harmed by this deal. they need to hear from them, and so i think it's so important that groups continue to mobilize people, not just talk in the media, but mobilize their people to express their outrage. >> as far as this million dollar threshold, we've talked a...
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said in the wake of this past one, something passed and it was supported by the brady campaign and the nra. so you can come together on these things. i think you have to be really careful. there is not a lot of evidence that these laws stop these things. these are crazy people intent on doing them. >> you know, this is just not true. >> you're taking away other people's abilities to defend themselves. >> mary katherine, if you're selling guns in the woods of verge, believe me, there becomes a pipeline to the cities that leads to this kind of carnage and i think we as a country have to have an assault weapons ban and stop selling these large -- >> bill: i got to go. let me ask you one question. >> be honest about the fact that's what you want to do. in australia, they took guns away from people -- >> bill: hold it! hold it! >> you overreact. >> bill: hold it. i think there should be a uniform thing of all 50 states about who you sell to and information about guns. but juan, the thing about the semiautomatic ban, 300 million guns here. as mr. gottlieb pointed out, they're going to buy them a
said in the wake of this past one, something passed and it was supported by the brady campaign and the nra. so you can come together on these things. i think you have to be really careful. there is not a lot of evidence that these laws stop these things. these are crazy people intent on doing them. >> you know, this is just not true. >> you're taking away other people's abilities to defend themselves. >> mary katherine, if you're selling guns in the woods of verge, believe me,...
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you hear the representatives of the nra and far right political strategists, whatever that means. on tv doing their agenda. the fact of the matter is there are less people buying guns now. there are more people buying a lot of guns, but gun ownership in households has gone down big time. they have to keep the numbers up jie. let me take the other side of this. this is something i saw over the weekend on tv or twitter, all of these people saying we need to have a conversation on gun control. it is time for a conversation. by all means, let's have a conversation. but most of these people don't want a conversation. a conversation requires listening to people who disagree with you. and it is starting from the premise that both sides are coming from booth faith. -- coming from good faith. they don't want a conversation. they want gun control. >> they want to talk about what they feel. the bottom line is the stats if you look around the country, the states, the cities, it is places with the strictest gun control laws have the highest crime levels. it is a deterrent for criminals. think
you hear the representatives of the nra and far right political strategists, whatever that means. on tv doing their agenda. the fact of the matter is there are less people buying guns now. there are more people buying a lot of guns, but gun ownership in households has gone down big time. they have to keep the numbers up jie. let me take the other side of this. this is something i saw over the weekend on tv or twitter, all of these people saying we need to have a conversation on gun control. it...
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the nra has blood on its hands. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra. ban assault weapons now! ban assault weapons now! nra, ban assault weapons now! >> can you voice reaction to these protests? what is your reaction? >> rather than face -- >> stick to the script? >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonized lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action and all but guarantee the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the media calls semiautomatic firearms machine guns. they claim these civilians semiautomatic firearms are used by the military. they tell us that the 223 round is one of the most powerful rifle calibers when all of these claims are factually untrue. they don't know what they're talking about. worse, they perpetuate the dangerous notion that one more gun ban or one more law imposed on peaceable, lawful people will protect us, where 20,000 other laws have failed. as brave and heroic and as self sacrificing as
the nra has blood on its hands. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra. ban assault weapons now! ban assault weapons now! nra, ban assault weapons now! >> can you voice reaction to these protests? what is your reaction? >> rather than face -- >> stick to the script? >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonized lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that...
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about the nra's power. mayor michael bloomberg's right hand power. will real america come around on common sense gun laws? >> john nichols on the conservative push to keep common sense gun laws out of the middle of the country. plus, republican obstacles to reduce violence with jonathan and alex wagner. and dr. gail saultz on the role mental health professionals need to play to reduce the violence. >> no single law. no set of laws can eliminate evil from the world or prevent every senseless act of violence in our society. but that can't be an excuse for an action.
about the nra's power. mayor michael bloomberg's right hand power. will real america come around on common sense gun laws? >> john nichols on the conservative push to keep common sense gun laws out of the middle of the country. plus, republican obstacles to reduce violence with jonathan and alex wagner. and dr. gail saultz on the role mental health professionals need to play to reduce the violence. >> no single law. no set of laws can eliminate evil from the world or prevent every...
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it's the nra and assault weapons that are killing our children. >> protesters accused the nra of having blood on its hands. i'll be speaking to one of those in a moment. wayne lapierre paused and then continued and blamed the violence on video games, on the media, on just about everything but guns. they said the news media is consumed with hate for the nra, but the proposal to have armed guards in schools in america is stirring the most debate. jeffrey, let me lay my cards on the table off the top here. i watched that press conference or that statement with mounting horror and anger, but i was also aware that a lot of people in america would have watched it and said he's right. >> yeah, people will say that the answer to every escalating sort of violent act in america is the ability to use more violence to counter that. and it never stops. so you're going to give a security guard a regular gun against someone who has an assault weapon. so when the assault weapon overpowers the regular gun, you give the security guard in the school an assault weapon, where does this end? it doesn't end.
it's the nra and assault weapons that are killing our children. >> protesters accused the nra of having blood on its hands. i'll be speaking to one of those in a moment. wayne lapierre paused and then continued and blamed the violence on video games, on the media, on just about everything but guns. they said the news media is consumed with hate for the nra, but the proposal to have armed guards in schools in america is stirring the most debate. jeffrey, let me lay my cards on the table...
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the nra is a forceful power here. mayor bloomberg said yesterday speaking to david gregory "on meet the press" he believes the power of the gun lobby is vastly overrated but enough to deter movement on this issue for the past many years. >> yes. peter, thank you very much. greatly appreciate you updating us from the white house. >>> and the brady campaign to prevent gun violence says since 1970, 1.4 million americans violently killed with firearms. that is more than all u.s. service men and women killed in all foreign wars combined. it is also a stat that chairman of the stop handgun violence quoted in the huffington post blog titled "enough dead children from gun violence." and joins me now live. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> let's ask for your reaction of the nra silent except waiting to get more information on the investigation. >> well, the nra has virtually owned the republican party and they have intimidated the democrats in to submission. so, you know, they're just going to lay in the weeds. they al
the nra is a forceful power here. mayor bloomberg said yesterday speaking to david gregory "on meet the press" he believes the power of the gun lobby is vastly overrated but enough to deter movement on this issue for the past many years. >> yes. peter, thank you very much. greatly appreciate you updating us from the white house. >>> and the brady campaign to prevent gun violence says since 1970, 1.4 million americans violently killed with firearms. that is more than all...
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the nra has blood on its hands. the nra has blood on its hands. take on the nra! ban assault weapons now! ban assault weapons now! nra, ban assault weapons now! >> what is your reaction to that? >> rather than face -- rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonizes lawful gun owners and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action and all but guarantee that the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the media calls semiautomatic firearms machine guns. they claim these civilian semiautomatic firearms are used by the military. they tell us that the 223 round is one of the most powerful rifle calibers when all of these claims are factually untrue. they don't know what they're talking about. worse, they perpetuate the dangerous notion that one more gun ban or one more law imposed on peaceable, lawful people will protect us where 20,000 other laws have failed. as brave and heroic and as self-sacrificing as those teachers were in those classrooms and as prompt and professional and well-trained as t
the nra has blood on its hands. the nra has blood on its hands. take on the nra! ban assault weapons now! ban assault weapons now! nra, ban assault weapons now! >> what is your reaction to that? >> rather than face -- rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonizes lawful gun owners and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action and all but guarantee that the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the media...
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an nra member. he told joe scarborough why he thinks we ought to talk about this. >> never before have we seen our babies slaughtered. it's never happened in america that i can recall, ever seeing this type of carnage. anybody, anybody that lives in america, anybody that's a proud gun owner, anybody that's a proud member of the nra, they're also proud parents, proud grandparents, they understand. this has changed where we go from here. i'm going to speak to all my colleagues. i'm going to reach out to all of my friends at the nra. i'll go over and sit down with them and say how can we take the dialogue to a different level? how can we sit down and make sure we're moving and not be afraid that someone is going to attack our freedoms and our rights. >> let me go back to mr. larson. this is a real trouble here because it always goes back to freedom and the fact we love this freedom we feel. adlai stevenson once said freedom in this doesn't is something you can actually feel. it just feels great, the se
an nra member. he told joe scarborough why he thinks we ought to talk about this. >> never before have we seen our babies slaughtered. it's never happened in america that i can recall, ever seeing this type of carnage. anybody, anybody that lives in america, anybody that's a proud gun owner, anybody that's a proud member of the nra, they're also proud parents, proud grandparents, they understand. this has changed where we go from here. i'm going to speak to all my colleagues. i'm going to...
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since 2009, 99-nra-backed alec laws have passed in 36 states. all of those states are states where alec-backed gun legislation has passed. and as a result gun safety laws across the country have gotten incredibly watered down. in arizona you need a permit to cut hair but not to carry a concealed. in mississippi concealed weapons permits last longer than driver's licenses. iowa it's easier to sell a gun than lemonade. in arkansas it takes less time to buy a gun than to qualify for food stamps. not only do we have weaker gun laws than other countries, we have significantly more guns than any other place on the planet. look at this chart. those little yellow dots are the number of runs that are in all of those countries, all of those advanced industrialized nations, and there are 270 million privately owned firearms in the united states, far more than any other country the world. that's an average of roughly nine guns for every 10 americans. almost as many guns as there are people. and sadly the sandy hook venn has only aggravated this trend. the l
since 2009, 99-nra-backed alec laws have passed in 36 states. all of those states are states where alec-backed gun legislation has passed. and as a result gun safety laws across the country have gotten incredibly watered down. in arizona you need a permit to cut hair but not to carry a concealed. in mississippi concealed weapons permits last longer than driver's licenses. iowa it's easier to sell a gun than lemonade. in arkansas it takes less time to buy a gun than to qualify for food stamps....
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we are all in favor of things like criminal background checks. 74% of nra members are and most gun sales do not require a background check. things that we can do. >> it's not as they try to tell me an anti-american thing to say i respect the second amendment and i respect the right for a family to defend themselves. i don't respect families to load their homes with these so a disturbed kid can take them. we are ending the debate for now. [ female announcer ] born from the sweet monk fruit, something this delicious could only come from nature. new nectresse. the 100% natural no-calorie sweetener made from the goodness of fruit. new nectresse. sweetness naturally. share "not even close." share "you owe me..." share "just right." the share everything plan. shareable data across 10 devices with unlimited talk and text. get a droid incredible 4g lte by htc for $49.99. i get congested. but now, with zyrtec-d®, i have the proven allergy relief of zyrtec®, plus a powerful decongestant. zyrtec-d® lets me breath freer, so i can love the air. [ male announcer ] zyrtec-d®. behind the pharmacy co
we are all in favor of things like criminal background checks. 74% of nra members are and most gun sales do not require a background check. things that we can do. >> it's not as they try to tell me an anti-american thing to say i respect the second amendment and i respect the right for a family to defend themselves. i don't respect families to load their homes with these so a disturbed kid can take them. we are ending the debate for now. [ female announcer ] born from the sweet monk...
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. >> flags at federal buildings and at nra headquarters are at half-staff but no comment from the nra telling cbs news there still aren't enough facts about the connecticut crime. fear of the lobby might be exaggerated but it does oppose almost any new regulations, political analyst norman ornstein. >> no member of congress no mat other how safe wants to have some group pouring millions of dollars in dedicated to smearing them or defeating them. >> reporter: we may see a test of strength between two washington power centers, a lobby, the nra and legislators who feel they've got to do something. dan raviv, cbs news at the capitol. >> jeff: still ahead on tonight's "cbs evening news", a warrant's worst fear not realized. stories of survival and sacrifice in newtown. and we'll take a critical look back at an effort to stop gun violence in california. >> briefly in other news outside the syrian cap tafl damascus tonight, warplanes fired on a palestinian refugee camp, activists say at least 25 people were killed taking shelter in a mosque there and to the north rebels say they won a key ba
. >> flags at federal buildings and at nra headquarters are at half-staff but no comment from the nra telling cbs news there still aren't enough facts about the connecticut crime. fear of the lobby might be exaggerated but it does oppose almost any new regulations, political analyst norman ornstein. >> no member of congress no mat other how safe wants to have some group pouring millions of dollars in dedicated to smearing them or defeating them. >> reporter: we may see a test...